Simon’s brother Smil Arie/Lieb Ghertner (for more, click here), born 1875 in Roman, Romania to Avram & Pescia Abramovici. Smil and Fraga Frodel Cucosh had five children. Descendants of Smil-Lieb Ghertner (and his wife Fraga Frodel Cucosh) made their way from Romania to Israel.
- Victor Fraga Ghertner (1896-1992) married Surica Marcovici
- Anootza (Anuta) Chana/Ana/Hana Ghertner (1898 – 1990) Married Natan Ciuraru (Horenstein) (1898-1967)
- Moritz Meir Ghertner (1900-??) married Rashela ?
- Oscar Ghertner (
19021905– 1983) married Anutza Meirovici
- Avraham Ghertner (1908 – 1988) married Amalia Mitza Haber